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Post by galaxina on Feb 6, 2009 19:47:33 GMT
Well It wasn't like Maria's death. Remeber, In Shadow the Hedgehog, It actually showed the soldier come form behind and shoot her, so that proved it there. Cosmo's sisters however, it did not show anything like this. If it showed a scene of them being gunned down by metarex or something, then it would be more provable.
Also they just have to be alive, for If Cosmo doesn't come back, then her kind will go extinct! And even if she does return, she won't be able to reporduce with another of her kind, and Seedrians will still go extinct when she dies of old age! And you know how utmostly awful extinction is, don't you?!
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Post by Miles The Fox on Feb 6, 2009 20:01:12 GMT
Well It wasn't like Maria's death. Remeber, In Shadow the Hedgehog, It actually showed the soldier come form behind and shoot her, so that proved it there. Cosmo's sisters however, it did not show anything like this. If it showed a scene of them being gunned down by metarex or something, then it would be more provable. So... you want to see them gunned down or blown up by the Metarex ? I know that in Shadow the Hedgehog they shot Maria, but that was one of 'those not-friendly' games, and Sonic X is a cartoonshow, It's not going to be like in Dragonball or something where you can actually see them die... that would be grose.
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Post by galaxina on Feb 6, 2009 21:05:20 GMT
Well It wasn't like Maria's death. Remeber, In Shadow the Hedgehog, It actually showed the soldier come form behind and shoot her, so that proved it there. Cosmo's sisters however, it did not show anything like this. If it showed a scene of them being gunned down by metarex or something, then it would be more provable. So... you want to see them gunned down or blown up by the Metarex ? I know that in Shadow the Hedgehog they shot Maria, but that was one of 'those not-friendly' games, and Sonic X is a cartoonshow, It's not going to be like in Dragonball or something where you can actually see them die... that would be grose. Of coruse I don't. I am just saying that this makes it possible that they survived. Plus Maybe they had a hidden hatch, smoke grenades, and a warp system like Eggman's Egg Crimson ship did, so they would pull off the same move. Plus I have seen some characters in the show survived explosions (like Sonic and co. surviving Bokkun's bombs to the head or Eggman being alive after his machine explodes in his face), so why not that bve a possibility
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Post by Twilitbeing on Feb 8, 2009 3:18:28 GMT
Here's some evidence for you. During the attack, there is a scene where some of the people at the control consoles (Galaxina among them) are talking about something relating to the attack. Then they all gasp, look out the window, and see the Scarship's cannons light up and fire. The camera cuts to an outside shot of the laser blasts destroying the bridge a half-second later.
Now I ask you: was there ever a clear-cut scene of the pods launching, or of Galaxina and the others being on them?
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Post by galaxina on Feb 9, 2009 12:45:36 GMT
As I said before, It maight be like Eggman in episode 61. We never really saw him open the hidden hatch for the missile to go through, or him set off the smokle grenade and warp, but it still happened. Maybe Cosmo's ship had the same kind of thing on board.
And here's some food for thought. I remember in Halo 3, it looks like Master Chief doesn't survive the destruction of the ARK and you only see the Arbiter get away. But if you watch the credits, at the end there is a scene of him making it out alive somehow. Maybe you just didn't really see it, like that.
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Post by Lili on Feb 10, 2009 0:44:19 GMT
@galaxina: Actually, if they were extinct, then it really wouldn't be a big deal due to the fact they aren't real. And quit trying to find ways to prove that the Seedrian girls are alive; Twilitbeing's got a very good point. There was no scene of the Seedrians making it out alive somehow; they probably did die.
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Post by Twilitbeing on Feb 11, 2009 0:14:21 GMT
Yes, there was a clear scene showing the missile go through the Crimson Egg, though it was in flashback form. And I think the extra cutscene in Halo 3 counts as pretty concrete - certainly a lot more than "might have." It even explains why the Arbiter made it back and the Master Chief didn't: the actual explosion from Installation 04 (Halo) and Installation 00 (the Ark) never reached them, but the portal died just as the Forward Unto Dawn was passing through. Arby was on the bridge; the Chief was in the aft hangar bay.
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Post by Kyle Has Teh Style on Feb 11, 2009 2:21:04 GMT
Well, I'm going to have to side with Huski. The bridge was blown up much too early for anyone but Cosmo to escape. ...Plus, even if they were alive, wouldn't Cosmo's pod have sent out a distress signal? Even if they found Sonic's planet when the others were in space, they would have been there when the Blue Typhoon got back.
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Post by galaxina on Feb 11, 2009 12:44:51 GMT
I still don't understand what you mean. It still is proff that she didn't see it. It is also like that famous scene from Star Wars, remember? At first Luke had thought his father died long ago against Darth Vader because he never really saw it and Obi-Wan told him that. But then there came this well-known part Luke: I'll never forgive you, you kileld my father! Vader: No Luke, I AM YOUR FATHER! So because he never really saw it happen, he made a wrong assumption about his father being alive or not. Its the same for Cosmo here.
But lets stop talking about this part here. It is getting into an argument. Lets talk about what we were before this part, like about which ones we like and why we love them.
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Post by Miles The Fox on Feb 11, 2009 17:47:05 GMT
I watched episode 62 again where their spaceship blew up, and I did not see Galaxina on the bridge when it exploded, so She COULD have escaped. And those three others, I'm really starting to doubt that they are her sisters, i think they are more like royal servants ? Or good friends of Cosmo and Galaxina.
And one of them indeed said 'Be sure to give your mother our regards, we'll see you later Cosmo'
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Post by Kyle Has Teh Style on Feb 11, 2009 18:47:30 GMT
While it's possible, it's still very unlikely. The Metarex would have gone after them if they escaped. ...But yeah, what Galaxina said. Drop the subject.
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Post by galaxina on Feb 12, 2009 12:39:59 GMT
I actually think the others were her sisters. Not all of them, but the ones we see the most. I mostly think this for they were present at Cosmo's birth, treated her like a sibling, and would refer to Hertia as "mother." I think Cosmo only referred to Galaxina as her sister because she loves her the most, but she still ikes her other siblings. But if this is true, Than Hertia must've been pregnant a whole lot (I mean five daughters total).
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Post by galaxina on Feb 11, 2010 1:13:22 GMT
Say how good of fighters do you think Cosmo's sisters would be, (in certain fields of combat)? I personally think they could kick butt big time. In fact I am sure a fight involving the one Selina and a small squad of Metarex about her size would end up looking something like this (with different characters of course). Does anyone here agree on that?
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Post by Huski on Feb 11, 2010 21:09:22 GMT
I do wonder how much battle training Cosmo, Galaxina and the other Seedrians actually got. Considering they were in the middle of a war I think they must have known some stuff, but if you ask me they seem more like battle ship fighters as opposed to hands-on fighters. Since they were in space they hardly would have had a place to go and battle face-to-face on with their foes but would try and shoot the enemy ship.
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Wasn't one of the things that happened when Cosmo was killed, seeds were sent everywhere, so they could grow and rebuild the Seedrian race (although all over the galaxy, but whatever)? Technically there could be many more Seedrians again.
And I think female Seedrians are capable of reproducing/creating seeds without a male around. Hertia was able to grow seeds while she was a tree (despite that only one lived), and... well, the concept of a lady plant alien getting pregnant, then turning into a tree and that half-grown baby turning into a seed just seems a bit... unlikely? So I don't think Hertia was pregnant and then turned into a tree to have seeds.
So technically as long as Cosmo's seeds grew, there could be more Seedrians. As well as that you could always say another group of Seedrians fled too, different from Hertia's, which lived on and furthered the race.
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Post by galaxina on Feb 11, 2010 23:16:38 GMT
So I'm guessing you don't think Selina and what that woman in the previous picture did do not mix very well?
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Post by Twilitbeing on Feb 12, 2010 2:05:29 GMT
Even assuming Cosmo's seeds could repopulate her race, they most likely won't be relevant during the series timeline. According to Wikipedia, radiation from the galactic core messes with the chemistry of planets, rendering everything within about eight kiloparsecs (25,000 light years) uninhabitable. It would take... I don't know, hundred-thousands or millions of years for the seeds to cross that distance. (Great, now I'll have to try and calculate it.) That's not to even mention their chances of actually impacting a planet (slim).
I think, if there's any possibility of other Seedrians making an appearance, they'd be refugees who managed to survive the war and the Metarex, like you (Huski) said. If they have a faster-than-light starship, that is.
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Post by Huski on Feb 12, 2010 7:35:44 GMT
So I'm guessing you don't think Selina and what that woman in the previous picture did do not mix very well? Considering the female Seedrians chose to flee from a battle on their home instead of stay and fight? Not particularly myself. Unless they're like awesome ninja power rangers in disguise.
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Post by galaxina on Feb 12, 2010 23:11:00 GMT
While it's possible, it's still very unlikely. The Metarex would have gone after them if they escaped. Well how come they didn't go after Cosmo's escape pod then? I thought they wouldn't have noticed them as they fled.
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Post by XT-421 on Feb 12, 2010 23:59:44 GMT
Ok, I don't remember ALL of the details, but, with the fact that Cosmo was SOMEHOW implanted with the spying equipment, perhaps she was intended to find Sonic.
I mean, let's write up a (potentially, just in case it isn't true,) history for Cosmo.
(It will be lame, I apologize.)
Born. Grows up to about 8. Ship attacked by Evilship. Passes out with the desire to find Sonic the hedgehog. Metarex capture her, know where she's heading, and see it as benefitial. They want Sonic too. Metarex implant Cosmo with tracking and espionage equipment while Cosmo is unconscious and unresponsive. Metarex send Cosmo in her escape pod to Mobius. Cosmo has no memory of her temporary imprisionment aboard the Metarex spacecraft.
Cosmo finds Sonic and company, and the Metarex rejoyce with glee at their successful plan.
Quite personally, I think this is genius of the Metarex...
~Joe
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Post by Huski on Feb 13, 2010 10:08:14 GMT
Ok, I don't remember ALL of the details, but, with the fact that Cosmo was SOMEHOW implanted with the spying equipment, perhaps she was intended to find Sonic. I mean, let's write up a (potentially, just in case it isn't true,) history for Cosmo. (It will be lame, I apologize.) Born. Grows up to about 8. Ship attacked by Evilship. Passes out with the desire to find Sonic the hedgehog. Metarex capture her, know where she's heading, and see it as benefitial. They want Sonic too. Metarex implant Cosmo with tracking and espionage equipment while Cosmo is unconscious and unresponsive. Metarex send Cosmo in her escape pod to Mobius. Cosmo has no memory of her temporary imprisionment aboard the Metarex spacecraft. Cosmo finds Sonic and company, and the Metarex rejoyce with glee at their successful plan. Quite personally, I think this is genius of the Metarex... ~Joe This. And thus that is why they wouldn't have gone after Cosmo.
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