Post by Twilitbeing on Nov 4, 2009 22:29:10 GMT
Okay, so last night, XT-421 sent me the following message:
I've noticed that a lot of things that have been said in both the "Laws ofWriting" and "Things a fanfiction writer whould never do" have a lot to do with mine (of course I'm always thinking of myself first... shame on me...) and well, also the writings from you and Tsunami...
Perhaps we could take sections of hose stories apart? Demonstrate what was used where, what we particularly like about certain sections of each story, ad why they stood out, or make the story stand out.
I see this, for myself, as a learning experience to see where I stand as a writer, and what good readers (which you and Zoran are,) think of my story a little more in depth than a review.
This sounded like a pretty good idea; I had been considering something very similar even before I read the message. I let my thoughts ferment over the next sixteen hours, and here is the result.
In this thread, we will cut things up. Artistic things. Entertaining things. Things that we ourselves created, both recently and in the semi-distant past. By cutting these things up, we will see what they contain and perhaps understand how they work. We will find where each piece is, what purpose it serves, and how it contributes to the shape and function of the whole. We will see what holds and what falters, what is sound and what is flawed, what fits and what is out of place. We will ask, "What should be done instead?" Then we will answer. And from those answers, we will learn.
Welcome to Literary Analysis.
For those of you whom I managed to confuse, the basic ideas is as follows. You all come here, and we start dissecting one another's writing and looking at what we find. If you arrive and see a discussion already underway (for newcomers in the future, once we get moving), feel free to jump in at any point. Understand, however, that in doing so you are becoming a part of the topic. The rule here is "silence implies consent."
Don't want people examining (and I mean seriously examining) your work? Fine. Have some bits you want us to leave out? Also fine. But you have to say so, or you'll have no right to be angry if someone trespasses on forbidden ground. Call it or it's fair game.
Remember, though, that the goal here is not to take shots at people, but to understand how their decisions at the time affected their writing. Critique is to be aimed at the product, not the artisan; likewise, it is to be disputed or accepted in good faith. "No hard feelings" is the other rule here. (I really shouldn't have to say this, but I know someone will eventually start a flame war if I don't. Fires are put out here, and troublemakers get the Hammer.)
Count me as the first to join. I have two conditions: (1) stay away from that song-fic I wrote on FFNet (it was boredom, nothing more), and (2) understand that most of my writing is tied to something still in progress, meaning it isn't fully plot-mature yet.
That covers about everything, I think. Be tactful and understanding, but only to the extent that honesty allows. Tacs Team, you are clear to engage.
XT-421 said:
Ok, so, we now have the resource of a writing discussion sect to discuss things like this.I've noticed that a lot of things that have been said in both the "Laws ofWriting" and "Things a fanfiction writer whould never do" have a lot to do with mine (of course I'm always thinking of myself first... shame on me...) and well, also the writings from you and Tsunami...
Perhaps we could take sections of hose stories apart? Demonstrate what was used where, what we particularly like about certain sections of each story, ad why they stood out, or make the story stand out.
I see this, for myself, as a learning experience to see where I stand as a writer, and what good readers (which you and Zoran are,) think of my story a little more in depth than a review.
This sounded like a pretty good idea; I had been considering something very similar even before I read the message. I let my thoughts ferment over the next sixteen hours, and here is the result.
In this thread, we will cut things up. Artistic things. Entertaining things. Things that we ourselves created, both recently and in the semi-distant past. By cutting these things up, we will see what they contain and perhaps understand how they work. We will find where each piece is, what purpose it serves, and how it contributes to the shape and function of the whole. We will see what holds and what falters, what is sound and what is flawed, what fits and what is out of place. We will ask, "What should be done instead?" Then we will answer. And from those answers, we will learn.
Welcome to Literary Analysis.
For those of you whom I managed to confuse, the basic ideas is as follows. You all come here, and we start dissecting one another's writing and looking at what we find. If you arrive and see a discussion already underway (for newcomers in the future, once we get moving), feel free to jump in at any point. Understand, however, that in doing so you are becoming a part of the topic. The rule here is "silence implies consent."
Don't want people examining (and I mean seriously examining) your work? Fine. Have some bits you want us to leave out? Also fine. But you have to say so, or you'll have no right to be angry if someone trespasses on forbidden ground. Call it or it's fair game.
Remember, though, that the goal here is not to take shots at people, but to understand how their decisions at the time affected their writing. Critique is to be aimed at the product, not the artisan; likewise, it is to be disputed or accepted in good faith. "No hard feelings" is the other rule here. (I really shouldn't have to say this, but I know someone will eventually start a flame war if I don't. Fires are put out here, and troublemakers get the Hammer.)
Count me as the first to join. I have two conditions: (1) stay away from that song-fic I wrote on FFNet (it was boredom, nothing more), and (2) understand that most of my writing is tied to something still in progress, meaning it isn't fully plot-mature yet.
That covers about everything, I think. Be tactful and understanding, but only to the extent that honesty allows. Tacs Team, you are clear to engage.
