LAMSonicX De Ripper
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Post by LAMSonicX De Ripper on May 30, 2010 21:13:59 GMT
Well, Dark Super Sonic was supposedly to be superbly strong. Now, I could wished more appearance of those Titan soldiers, or like an army in my fic. These two are great!!!
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Post by galaxina on Jun 6, 2010 3:33:46 GMT
Yeah, but so was the Biolizard, and Gemerl, and the Egg Salamander, and he still took Normal Super Sonic a real long time to beat, and I am pretty sure Normal is stronger.
Here is how I think it should've gone.
The Boss battle should've been more like this. Rigth at the scene where Narcissus shows chris and Cosmo, Amy, Tails and Knuckels come crashing in and break thorugh the glass prison. He then sends the two out and tells them they are his greatest creations yet and how he has worked on them for so many years and thinks he has perfected them. And instead of them just jumping out of nowhere, he releases them both from a stasis pod. Amy, Tails and Cosmo take on the Silver one, While Chris, Knux and Dark Super Sonic are forced to fight the Gold one.
The one against the Foot Soldeir Type Silver would be much like this boss fight above, but slightly different, without blood and with the respective characters (although maybe still with guns though). Amy starts by hitting it across the room with her hammer, when it then reveals it's true form. Large mechanical tentacles rip out of it's back, exposing some of it's spinal column, and it stands up on it. narcissus then departs, when the experiment touches a button on the throne and grabs a gauss weapon for it. It starts climbing around the room and fires gauss bolts at them, while trying to grab them with it's claws. It's weak point is the exposed spine on it's back, which they can only get a clear hit at when it is stunned by Tails's spin attack or Cosmo's leaf cutter. He is real hard since he jumps around constantly and can climb in areas that two of them cannot reach. He even attempt to rip the throne out of the ground and throw it at them. after a while, they manage to whittle down it's health and it dies.
Foot Soldier Type Gold would be a much different battle. It then flies to the Citadel's main reactor and attaches itself to there by means of strange needle things, and protects itself with a shield. Chris, Knux, and Dark Super have to harm it by deactivating the five generators in the Reactor chamber so it's shield will lower, all while avoiding deadly energy bombs fired from its arms and force waves. They also have to do it quick, for it can also can reactivate the generators. Once it's shield lowers, all of them have to attack it while it is stunned (Dark Super Sonic with spin attacks, Chris with his blaster from episode 61 or some other gun, and Knux with his fists), and do as much harm as they can before it reactivates it's shieldand they have to repeat the process all over again. Once that one's down for the count, it falls off and tries to pull itself up while making horrid screeching noises in pain, and then it falls right in and gets caught inside.
Black Narcissus is enraged and can't believe they all beat something that strong. He then grabs his staff and starts charging up a spell to kill them all himself with his power, when he is interupted. The main alarm in the Citadel alerts "CRITICAL SYSTEMS FAILURE IN CENTRAL REACTOR, IMPLOSION OF CITADEL IMMINENT, IMPLOSION IN T-MINUS 10 MINUTES, EVACUATE IMMEDIATELY! Narcissus hears this and teleports out. Sonic and the others now have 10 minutes to escape the Citadel before it implodes. A timer appears and they have to make there way back to the Blue typhoon before it is up, as things explode around them. They also come across another Titan soldier experiment who is still in development, as for many of it's fleshy areas are exposed. It then breaks free and flies out a ventilation duct, which is then covered by debris. They eventually get out of the Citadel and fly off with it imploding behind them. They then discuss the results of the last battle and see what measures they must take. Then Narcissus watches from an assault ship, saying something like "I must have my retribution" and it ends there.
That would've made the episode much better, don't you think? That's all I'm saying about it.
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Post by XT-421 on Jun 6, 2010 14:05:18 GMT
I mean no offense by it, Galaxina, but you do seem to have an eerie fondness for violence.
I agree with you 100% up to the point where you say that defeated the Metarex King (I cannot spell this morning...) was absolutely lacking, and pretty much sucked.
I feel that we needed more explanation there, in everything. Perhaps the creators could've explained WHY Sonic became evil for a mere moment and destroyed those two robots. I feel that those two were killed prematurely, (like a bad fanfiction writer creating a plot element in a chapter just to be destroyed.) But I also feel that Deccoe and Boccoe and Bokkun should NOT have been there. Shadow, perhaps. He had motive. He was saving Cris, and likewise Cosmo, because Cris had helped him restore his Power Bracers.
I feel that the Metarex King should've either ran away, or fought Sonic with his friends. NO Dr. Eggman, NO Shadow, NO Eggman's Robots, and why the hell was Rouge even in there? (She herself yelled at the editors.)
I'm not saying what would be good quite yet, but I know that, if we had the power, this chapter of this long story should NOT have been posted. It needs to be redone terribly.
~Joe
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Post by galaxina on Jun 6, 2010 17:16:41 GMT
Exactly what I mean. As I know, those two metarex were part of Project Titan Soldier, a super-soldier project that the metarex had been working on years before Sonic had met the metarex with countless failures. The project was to create Metarex foot soldiers that would be elite and much stronger than the others, although they kept running into serious problems such as how to mass produce them, and how the enhancement processes resulted in awful side effects like shortened lifespans, demetia, and even death before they could have their implants done. Foot Soldiers type Gold and Silver were the first two completely successful ones and Black Narcissus released them because he though for sure they would be enough to take down Sonic. Considering all of that, it was too short. The boss battle against them in the show should've lasted at least five or eight minutes. I mean no offense by it, Galaxina, but you do seem to have an eerie fondness for violence. As if you don't XT?! You play stuff like Halo and Call of Duty, so you're not too different. Besides, that youtube video was just to show a basis on how the silver one should've been like, and I did mention it would be different, as in no blood. Did you even read the descriptions I had underneath?
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Post by Twilitbeing on Jun 6, 2010 18:30:31 GMT
Okay, how about I nip a potential flame-skirmish in the bud? This is starting to get repetitive.
Galaxina, I have noticed that you frequently describe scene ideas by including the phrase "like in such-and-such." We all do this sometimes, but it seems to be one of your trademarks. Combined with the observation that you enjoy several violent films and games, one could perceive that you enjoy violence in films and games.
Was XT mistaken? Maybe, maybe not. People don't know how to respond to a backusation: did they offend you or call you out?
XT, the phrase "no offense" and variations don't accomplish much by themselves. If you're worried, you may want to explain your reasoning right there.
That is all, concludes Count Bleck. Carry on.
EDIT: On the topic of the discussion itself, you said the Titan prototypes suffered from shortened life span and dementia. How exactly does that happen in a machine? Genuine curiosity.
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Post by galaxina on Jun 7, 2010 13:26:15 GMT
Kinda of like the reason why the Ultimate Chimera from Earthbound went insane because of it's genetic enhancements. Well I have reason to believe as you might know that most metarex aren't really robots, but actually alien creatures either captured and cloned, or bioengineered, that then have their skin and some of their organs replaced by machinery as to make them stronger, as well as are lobotomized to only think like the metarex would. I got this not only from other websites, but also small hints in the show. Perhaps whatever is used to enhance them has also resulted in side effects such as decay/deforming of their internal brain matter and an abnormal increase in their cells aging processes of their internal bodies, which results in that. There were other Titan Soldier experiments before those two, such as Foot Soldier type Pearl and Foot Soldier type Sapphire, but they were not the most successful, unlike type Gold and Silver. There were also many others that didn't even make it that far, as for they died early from the implants and mutagens being too hazardous for their health, and that was constantly studied on how to prevent that from happening. Plus Gold and Silver were the first ever perfected experiments, not prototypes.
Apparently Black Narcissus must've thought he could bait Sonic in and that he would have no chance of winning because of how strong they both were, plus that there were two of them. He had no doubt at the time that they would fail, consdiering how much they were enhanced and that he put much time and effort on them both, even before he knew who Sonic was. Maybe he would'nt have beaten them at all if he hadn't gone Dark Super (Black Narcissus must've been ticked after that).
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Post by XT-421 on Jun 9, 2010 1:45:41 GMT
I apologize from any misconceptions I let off. I meant no harm or accusations in my previous comment.
In fact, I feel it would be best to hereby relinquish myself from this conversation for a set period of time.
~Joe
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Post by galaxina on Jun 20, 2010 12:54:22 GMT
Apology accepted XT.
By the way, I had this idea for a boss battle in my biggest Sonic X project (check it in the general thread). It was going to be based on the idea for the Gold one Boss Battle I said in an earlier post in this topic. This one would be another titan soldier experiment called "Foot Soldier Type Garnet" (going along with the theme that Titan soldiers are named after precious stones) and they encouter this one in an abandoned sector of a renewed Metarex stronghold. He was created years before Type Gold and Silver and was considered a prototype to them, but has to stay attached to the massive reactor in the room in order to survive (also a source of power for him) was was his main defect. He would be fought the same way as that idea I mentioned, but they don;t have to escape afterwards, and After they defeat him, Sonic gains the Bounce Bracelet from him (a powerup used in the games but never in the show unfortunately)
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Post by LAMSonicX De Ripper on Jun 21, 2010 2:35:42 GMT
But... stay attached to a massive reactor to stay alive? It sounds painful to them. It would be better if it instead can't survive outside because it weren't designed to stay at low pressures... or something alike, because when it has more pressure it becomes more... hard? right? At void it would... I dunno... separate?
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Post by galaxina on Jun 24, 2010 1:47:22 GMT
But... stay attached to a massive reactor to stay alive? It sounds painful to them. I know that, but it would not be directly attached to the reactor, but attached firmly on by these strong supports and wires implanted in its back. Type Garnet would also occasionally make groans as if in pain in my series, showing how it was a subject that did not completely make the cut and its attacks cause it some harm. He'd basically look like this shinier red foot soldier with a different looking face with ant-like mandibles that's hanging from the ceiling by these wires and stuff connected to a large cylindrical, pulsing machine on the ceiling. This idea though better is discussed in my Biggest Sonic X project topic. I'll hopefully soon draw you a picture of what Type Garnet will look like.
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Post by LAMSonicX De Ripper on Jun 24, 2010 1:50:47 GMT
OK, I wanna see more art.
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Post by galaxina on Aug 14, 2010 21:13:15 GMT
OK, I wanna see more art. Done. Here is my idea for Foot Soldier Type Garnet, as he would appear in the show. See what I mean by the part about it needing the reactor to live. By the way, does that look like some exposed muscle tissue on its back where most of the wires are connected in? I tried to make it look like that. Also check out this link for more stuff on my idea about it.
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Post by lukethearchmage on Aug 16, 2010 18:06:57 GMT
Hey, does anyone think that it's possible that inbetween sonic's light and dark forms there is another form like something that exists between perfect light and total dark (and I mean other than his usual form). something that is both light and dark...it would probably be grey.
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Post by galaxina on Aug 16, 2010 18:43:57 GMT
Like a Neutral Super Sonic. That's very interesting, though we cant be sure about it.
I heard there is going to be a special Super Form in the upcoming Sonic 4, so it might be possible that form will be Neutral Super Sonic.
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Post by XT-421 on Aug 17, 2010 13:20:22 GMT
Ok, I haven't fully researched this, but, at one point in time, I looked for the various super forms of EVERYONE. (Apparently, in the comic books Tails was supposed to have a legitament superform, not some bubble, lol.) But anyways, in it, they described Hyper Super Sonic. It appeared that it was Sonic, feeding off of the positive energies of the Chaos Emeralds, the Neutral energies of the Master Emerald, and the negative energies of the Hyper Emeralds, (the likes of which apparently appeared inside Sonic the Hedgehog 3.) I think this might be what you're looking for? He was silver, not gold. <EDIT> Ok, I lied, for better information, check here. sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Hyper_Sonic<UNEDIT> ~Joe
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Post by galaxina on Aug 17, 2010 14:27:02 GMT
Ok, I haven't fully researched this, but, at one point in time, I looked for the various super forms of EVERYONE. (Apparently, in the comic books Tails was supposed to have a legitament superform, not some bubble, lol.) But anyways, in it, they described Hyper Super Sonic. It appeared that it was Sonic, feeding off of the positive energies of the Chaos Emeralds, the Neutral energies of the Master Emerald, and the negative energies of the Hyper Emeralds, (the likes of which apparently appeared inside Sonic the Hedgehog 3.) I think this might be what you're looking for? He was silver, not gold. ~Joe I've heard of that Super Tails too. If I recall, he glows gold and has 4 golden birds who fly around him and rush out and attack nearby foes. Also that Hyper Sonic would be Neutral Sonic? I never really noticed a difference in Sonic's super form in Sonic 3. It's a shame he only appears to fight such as lesser foe as that Eggman rocket thing, and not against a really strong foe who it would be better for him to use hyper than super against, such as Solaris or Dark Gaia. Say, wouldn't there also be a Hyper Blaze, Hyper Silver, and Hyper Shadow too?
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Post by XT-421 on Aug 18, 2010 0:15:14 GMT
The problem was, was that I think Sonic used these Hyper Emeralds that existed in a dimension only he has entered thusfar. When in doubt, look to the comics, I'm sure they'll have answers.
~Joe
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Post by galaxina on Aug 18, 2010 3:17:01 GMT
By the way, would Excalibur Sonic count as a Light Super Form, or a Neutral Super Form, or something else?
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Post by XT-421 on Aug 19, 2010 2:53:52 GMT
It's a light form, (gold armor.) But, I wouldn't count Excalibur Sonic into anything, that gimmick sword ruined everything.
~Joe
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Post by Huski on Aug 19, 2010 4:41:43 GMT
Why must I be one of the only people who liked that game (and Caliburn and the whole knight thing)? >:
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