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Post by galaxina on Mar 31, 2009 19:23:16 GMT
I wanted to talk about some planets and planet eggs in Sonic. I wanted to ask what's your favorite, and some stuff on planet eggs. Here is what I know on some of the worlds in Sonic X.
Secco-Desert Planet that flooded when it planet egg was stolen and home to the tribal goblin-like boggobs
Breezy-Arctic world that is home to the energy based breezians and where the ice palace was found.
Telton Niv-Jungle planet where Baboonzle was encountered
Marmolim-Planet that was home to the adorable Marmolimian race
Cascade-Molly and the other Cascadian's war-torn home
Farris Massa-Devastated world where the underground Naga facility was located.
Chystar-Moon of Nyanax 5 where Cosmo found that abandoned Chystian space station and where the Dynomorph was fought.
Hirian-Small Moon that the Metarex repeatedly shelled the landscape and then Black Narcissus stationed his citadel in episode 67
Green Gate-Cosmo' Home world.
Also I have some questions on Planet Eggs
1. If a planet would like explode, would its planet egg fade out of existence or would it stay with its powers, but nothign to power?
2. Could a planet egg from another world power a world (like could sonic have taken Breezy's planet egg and put it on Secco and make it dry again)?
3. How do planet egg's sink into the ground when returned, and what makes them do it. I mean Baboonzle had his planet egg touch the ground for his traps, but it didn't sink back in.
4. How are synthetic planet eggs like the one that hertia used created?
Anyone else got ideas on these?
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Post by Twilitbeing on Mar 31, 2009 22:43:19 GMT
1. I don't think that would really be relevant. The way I see it, Planet Eggs are objects created by the Metarex to contain the life force of a planet. That is, they extract the energy from the planet and contain it in a crystal, perhaps using a method somewhat like Aether's energy controllers. (You know, a mixture of several different forms.) Depending on the attributes of the planet, different things change once the energy leaves.
2. I'm not sure if that would work. The reason I say this is because the Planet Eggs seem to have a link to certain features of their parent planets. Mobius's Egg, taken from the forest near Mystic Ruin, had the exact crystalline shape of a perfect emerald; Breezy's was covered in icicle-like spikes; Secco's looked like a rock weathered by water or windblown sand. Each Egg probably has a slightly different energy content, so putting them with the wrong planets might cause changes to the ecosystems. Putting Breezy's Egg on Mobius, for example, might raise the climactic temperature due to the atmospheric heat probably stored inside.
3. Again, if a Planet Egg is composed of energy stored in a crystal, it might be made of an exotic material that is only held together by its own power. When the energy returns to the world, the crystal disintegrates. Whatever technology was originally used to seal the energy inside might work over distance, allowing Metarex to hold the Eggs together even when they aren't in their possession. This would explain the Baboonzle's traps as well as why the Eggs often do not return to the planets until their guardian is destroyed.
4. Umm... not really sure what you're talking about here. Could you elaborate?
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Post by galaxina on Apr 7, 2009 19:16:16 GMT
OK, thanks for that. I mgiht ask more though.
I want to say that my favorite planet in Sonic X was marmolim. I mean good inhabitants, nice landscape, it looks cool. Better than the others seen.
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Post by Twilitbeing on May 12, 2009 23:21:38 GMT
If I had to pick a favorite planet, I'd say Cascade simply because they fought back, while everyone else seemed to basically collapse under Metarex attack. There was also another unnamed nation that we briefly saw in combat with Scarship, which obviously had a fair bit of military potential. (Not enough to be victorious, unfortunately.)
If you want to see the type of nation I would have liked, check out my fanfic, The Theory of the Mobius. You don't see much of them there, but in future stories I plan to make them awesome.
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Post by Kyle Has Teh Style on May 13, 2009 3:10:30 GMT
The planet with the Naga Metarex, whatever planet that was.
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Post by galaxina on May 16, 2009 16:34:27 GMT
The planet with the Naga Metarex, whatever planet that was. You mean Farris Massa? That one I didn't really enjoy. Also I want to know why the Marmolimians didn't live in futuristic, technological cities and instead lived in rural, not so high tech cities. As we saw at the beginning of the episode, the Marmolimans have enough advanced technology to create meteor shaped freigher sips with ion propulsion engines and a hyperdrive. So why didn't they ultilize that same technology into making there cities more big and covered with advanced technologic stuff instead of resorting to living pratically in the sticks? Thta is a big question I want answered
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Post by Twilitbeing on May 16, 2009 16:59:12 GMT
It might have to do with their philosophy. Think about the fact that, although their ship is advanced, it is also quite small and appears to have only the necessary systems. Ion thrusters and some form of hyperdrive would be the only way to really get anywhere in space in any reasonable time span. On the other hand, many systems on other ships are solely for the sake of convenience. (The Typhoon, for instance, has a lot more than is strictly necessary to keep it running.)
My point (and I'm sorry if I'm not articulating it too well) is that they may do without technology, not because they lack the ability, but because they believe in an idea of minimalism - that is, they choose to live on the bare essentials. Similar philosophies in the real world (Buddhism, for instance) are often mistaken for religions, which might also explain that bit of trivia about the Marmolimians.
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Post by galaxina on May 16, 2009 18:12:55 GMT
Oh, I see. It is also kinda like how the Chozo people operated in metroid prime. I remember the chozo were a heavily advanced race, but they thought if they kept advancing, they would turn evil. So they decided to live tribal lives and study nature. Also the people in Iraq live a lot like that, though they have been using thier tech for all the wrong reasons (like making RPG launchers to shoot down US planes). Perhaps the Marmolimians operate the same. I also remembered that the luminoths did that same thing too.
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Post by Twilitbeing on May 17, 2009 16:21:49 GMT
What planet was it that had Mobian-like inhabitants? I remember a scene where they activated a recording on a ruined planet, and the person narrating looked an awful lot like a hedgehog.
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Post by galaxina on May 17, 2009 16:56:01 GMT
That was Chystar, and that inhabitant was a chystian. I told you that above. Although now, ever since the chystans were forced to migrate to another world, the more harsh conditions on that new one caused them to de-evolve into freaky rodent/bug like things that behave not unlike cavemen. By the way, about that particular Chystian on that videolog that Cosmo found in that abandoned colony. According to this place on the link below, his name is Hobidon and he was a famed Chystian researcher who started that particular space colony project. www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/11/975179/The%20Hobidon.jpg
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Post by galaxina on May 25, 2009 20:29:15 GMT
1. I don't think that would really be relevant. The way I see it, Planet Eggs are objects created by the Metarex to contain the life force of a planet. That is, they extract the energy from the planet and contain it in a crystal, perhaps using a method somewhat like Aether's energy controllers. (You know, a mixture of several different forms.) Depending on the attributes of the planet, different things change once the energy leaves. 2. I'm not sure if that would work. The reason I say this is because the Planet Eggs seem to have a link to certain features of their parent planets. Mobius's Egg, taken from the forest near Mystic Ruin, had the exact crystalline shape of a perfect emerald; Breezy's was covered in icicle-like spikes; Secco's looked like a rock weathered by water or windblown sand. Each Egg probably has a slightly different energy content, so putting them with the wrong planets might cause changes to the ecosystems. Putting Breezy's Egg on Mobius, for example, might raise the climactic temperature due to the atmospheric heat probably stored inside. 3. Again, if a Planet Egg is composed of energy stored in a crystal, it might be made of an exotic material that is only held together by its own power. When the energy returns to the world, the crystal disintegrates. Whatever technology was originally used to seal the energy inside might work over distance, allowing Metarex to hold the Eggs together even when they aren't in their possession. This would explain the Baboonzle's traps as well as why the Eggs often do not return to the planets until their guardian is destroyed. Hey, bu your idea on planet eggs, I notced something else. Remeber those synthetic chaos emeralds that the metarex would use. I think maybe the metarex use the same crystals for planet eggs to create the synthetic chaos emeralds as well. I recall in episode 62 that they need a real one to make fake ones, so since chaos emeralds can recahrge thier power, they gather some in a crystal and then let it recharge. Also whenever a synthetic chaos emerald was used by someone, it appears to disintegrate, which is what you say happens when planet eggs sink into the ground. What do you say about that?
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Post by Twilitbeing on May 25, 2009 23:28:15 GMT
That sounds plausible to me. I usually think of the so-called "Chaos" energy as a sort of universal type that living things can manipulate. Once, Cosmo tapped into the power of a Planet Egg in a similar way that others have done to Chaos Emeralds, albeit to a different result. I also remember the Metarex using both Eggs and Emeralds to power Forestation. It would make sense (at least in my mind) for them to be similar forms of energy.
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Post by galaxina on Jun 4, 2009 21:44:31 GMT
Well I still want to know why the Metarex didn't blow up the planets after they had absaorbed thier planet eggs and just left them that way. If they were to blow them up, then there would be no chance of the egg being returned. I would understand this more if they used them later to station thier complexes more often.
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Post by Twilitbeing on Jun 5, 2009 1:50:57 GMT
It takes an incredible amount of power to destroy a planet, and there's been no indication that the Metarex have that kind of firepower. Very little can be built more than a few stories down, so bombing the surface is usually all that's necessary to wipe out the inhabitants. Also, remember that the Forestation was supposed to repopulate the galaxy with plants; no planets means nothing for them to grow on.
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Post by galaxina on Jun 5, 2009 18:11:37 GMT
I can understand that. I mean the only things so far that has been able to blow up an enitre planet in Sonic is the Eclipse Cannon, and that requires all the chaos emeralds.
Also how come Black Narcissus picked such a horrible place to station his Citadel in episode 67? It was an awful place to ever house a Citadel, and especially when he had so many experiments going on there.
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Post by Twilitbeing on Jun 29, 2009 2:32:04 GMT
Less chance of getting unwanted visitors, probably.
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Post by galaxina on Aug 3, 2009 23:15:11 GMT
There was also another unnamed nation that we briefly saw in combat with Scarship, which obviously had a fair bit of military potential. (Not enough to be victorious, unfortunately.) That was actually Marmolim's army, as I have heard. Yes they may be minimalistic, but they do have an offensive force. The ships if you may have noticed, use a similar design to their cruise ships seen in episode 69, rock like exterior with it's weapons and thrusters more visible. They aren't all fortune telling and lust spells, they do have military potential.
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Post by Twilitbeing on Aug 3, 2009 23:40:30 GMT
That makes sense, although the voice you hear on the comm doesn't sound Marmolimian at all. (Then again, that could easily be the fault of the dub's... faultiness.) EDIT: Yep, I see what you mean. Scout: Armada:
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Post by Rena the Life Seedrian on Nov 4, 2009 23:05:40 GMT
Cosmo is like, a genius in everything on Sonic X, bringing up the planet eggs and all xD lol
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Post by milestails on Nov 21, 2009 1:43:52 GMT
Your right about cosmo Rena
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